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Post by roland on Feb 7, 2006 11:34:00 GMT 1
Ok, guys!
The next season is coming up for sure! How long did You use your brake fluid? It's a good idea to change the fluid all two years, at least after three years. What kind of brake fluid you have to use is written in the manual and on the top of the brake reservoir.
But I recommend DOT 4 or 5. DOT 5 is a little bit better thean DOT 4 but the differences are not too big. Both are mixable. Better is to change to DOT 5.1. This is NOT mixable with other brake fluids but it's not hydroscopic, means the fluid takes no water from the air and should last longer than the both other. With a special tool for the changing of the brake fluid, like Mitivac, the changing is a piece of cake. Without this tool it can be a pain.
In my opinion it's a good idea to have a look for the fluid and the brake pads before going on big tours or riding in the mountains. It's not only Your safety!
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Post by bunnie on Feb 7, 2006 12:14:49 GMT 1
thanks for this tip Roland. It's apreciated
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Post by squeeze on Feb 17, 2006 21:02:02 GMT 1
Sorry Guys for seeing that a little late ...
DO NOT use DOT 5 Brakefluid. It is designed for the Millwaukie Metallsculptures and works Siliconbased. It will eat up all the Seals in the Brakecylinder and Mastercylinders in short Time.
Normaly you can use DOT 4 Fluid. If you're riding hard on Brakes, however, better recommended the use of DOT 5.1. The differences between those Fluids are the Range in Temperature and several technical Specifications. DOT 5.1 is mixable with DOT 4 Fluid.
AGAIN !!!
DO NOT USE DOT 5 for our Bikes !!!!!!
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Post by bunnie on Feb 18, 2006 16:15:14 GMT 1
okay thanks squeeze now I'm deaf I valued your rep.
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Post by roland on Feb 18, 2006 18:02:51 GMT 1
I was really surprised with the posting of squeeze.
Squeeze, You're right but not in all point's. Here is what I found out:
There is DOT 5 brake fluid available based on silicone. This is the fluid squeeze is talking about. It's a special fluid for special use and not mixable with other DOT fluids.
For normal use as brake fluid in cars and motorcycles there is DOT 3, 4, 5 and 5.1 available. ALL are mixable!
DOT 5.1 is recommended for use with ABS. The differences are the boiling points of the DOT classes
DOT 3 at 205 degree Celsius DOT 4 at 230 DOT 5 at 260 DOT 5.1 at 265
There are some other differences too but not so interesting for normal use and with checkup in time.
If You want to use DOT 5 check for NOT silicone based!
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Post by squeeze on Feb 18, 2006 20:06:09 GMT 1
Roland, i don't know where you learned that Knowledge. As i know, there is no DOT 5 on the Market, which isn't silicone based. That's so because of the Specification of DOT 5. As the Experts run for higher Specs that DOT 4 is the thougt nothing can Beat the DOT on Glykolether. Thats why the SiliconeJuice was named DOT5. The ongoing Development brought up new Things on the Glykolether Side and the named the higher Specs as DOT 5.1. As i said, there are different Specifications in those glykolether based DOT's, boiling Points and several more. Everything i read about Brake fluids and talked from the small Garage in the Backyard to the Mechs in Race business, all say do not use a DOT 5 in Systems, which where designed for DOT 4 or DOT 5.1 or less, those are all glykolether based Fluids. In common use, just Harleys run the DOT 5 Fluid. read here pls: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_fluidwww.kfzbetrieb.de/fachartikel/kb_fachartikel_nh_51377.htmlwww.castrol.com/castrol/productdetailmin.do?categoryId=82915492&contentId=6004007and many more on Google ...
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Post by roland on Feb 19, 2006 12:21:31 GMT 1
Hi, Squeeze! I found it there: www.supermotomania.de/index.html?d_300_Moto_Elf___Brake_Fluid_Bremsflussigkeit_DOT_5_1150.htmSeems to me that ther must be different sorts of DOT 5 out there, some with silicone and some like the other DOT's. In my opinion we should go now with DOT 4 at all bikes, it's too difficult to find a useable DOT 5 or 5.1 fluid. With DOT 4 we can't make a mistake. Sorry, for the different informations. I don't know for sure what's right now and what not.
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Post by squeeze on Feb 19, 2006 13:29:33 GMT 1
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Post by brembo on Feb 19, 2006 14:35:11 GMT 1
[glow=red,2,300]please post only in English or get someone to translate asap[/glow]
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Post by roland on Feb 20, 2006 11:53:01 GMT 1
Here is the translation of the posting from sqeeze:
"Believe it or not: For Yamaha's and other models DOT 4 or 5.1, for Harley V-Rod and some other DOT 5"
For the moment I must say Squeeze is right.
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Post by squeeze on Feb 20, 2006 12:48:50 GMT 1
Thanks Roland for the Translation. Sorry for my Mishap. It won't happen again.
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Post by TwoWheels on Feb 20, 2006 13:32:09 GMT 1
That was a great debate,Dot 4 is the best for my old Venture.I'll change my fluid next month,it's been over 2 years since it was last changed.
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