CB or PMR-Radio on RSV

[roland]

Does anyone use CB-Radio or PMR-Radio using on his Venture?

I bought a "Add-a-radio-interface" from airrider for using a PMR-Radio because a lot of people of my home motorcycle club are using this during our trips. very easy to install, really "plug and play" with the PMR units. For CB I have to do some changes in Germany but not too difficult.

For the international meeting it would be good to know if some of You are equipped with a PMR or CB-Radio.

Greetings
Roland

[Falko]

i know what PMS is

no

not what you think...

its when its raining outside so hard you cant ride

and you wait for getting on the bike again

a pre motorcycling syndrome...

[roland]

PMR-Radios are the little walkie-talkies with a power output of 500mW. This should be good for talking over a distance of 3 km up to 5 km under best conditions. There are 8 Channels available and it is legal in most european countries. It's very fine to talk from the last to the first in a group of motorcycles. It makes it a lot easier for the leader of a group.

There are also some PMR-units available with switchable power output up to 2 watt. This should be good enough for a reach up to 20 km and a good substitute for CB. Best of it is the automatic squelch, so there is no noise in the headset.

[TwoWheels]

I have 4 Motorola walkie talkies & we use them on the bikes using an earpiece,my friend uses a waterproof speaker attached to his back box.
Question: If we all had VR's & we fitted an FM Transmitter to each of the walkie talkies,would we hear each other through our bike speakers,using the right frequency of course.If it works with ipod or mp3,should'nt it work with PMR.
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[roland]

In my expierience the units from Alan have the best modulation and are clear to understand. But there are more available.

With the airrider set or the set from Kennedy (they sell also a cellset for the Venture) it's a piece of cake to install in the audio system of the Venture (RSV). Otherwise it's easier to use it with a helmet headset directly with the PMR-unit. Then You have the music over the built-in speakers. Last time I used my PMR was with the direct way. But I wanted to keep my Intercom. If You want this too, You have to buy an adapter because the mics for the Intercom are dynamic and the PMR's need electrical mics. That is the problem. The adapters use the intercom for the loudness of the PMR's. Activated Intercom is needed to use the Radio.

Hope this helps a little.

Roland

[Nacho]

The Spanish group use CB radios and not PMR's.

The only reason is because we sometimes ride with wingers and the all use PMR's.

We know that PMR's are better, have more range, even can work with bigger distances and do not have noise and interferences during communications.

In Spain, BMW's, Paneuropeans, and many other bikes are starting to use the digital ones (PMR's), but right now we made the choice to use the traditional 27 MHz radios.

I think that Wingers and old Ventures use AM communications. The Spanish group, using the Alan walky-talkies always communicate in the FM band which is much more clear and has lees noise.

But we can change into the AM band for the French Meeting, although only a couple of guys speak English.

We usually use channel 9 FM. We know that one is the emergency channel, but we never listened any emergency on it and it is usually very quiet and free of interferences.

Should we all agree on one single channel to use during the French Meeting? I've been told that Venture owners usually talk on channel 1, same as wingers. Is that true?

Anyway. This is a good thread and a good topic to talk about.

Let's see what everybody think about this deal.

Regards to all from Spain,

Nacho.

[roland]

Installed the Radio interface from airrider this weekend. Just "plug and play". Now I can use a PMR-Radio without changes. I have to look how I can use the CB also with minor changes. In Germany different Radios us different connections. I only have to know what we shall use at the meeting in France. I don't want to take both radios with me.

Nacho: AM or FM doesn't matter. What are You using in Spain?

Best regards
Roland

[Nacho]

Roland,

we usually use FM and only switch to AM when we ride with somebody who only has AM.

I suggest that we use AM in France, as most of the old Ventures only have AM and not FM.

Should we decide a common channel to use all of us?

Best regards,

Nacho.

[roland]

The Adapter has also a 5-pin connector to put it into the stock headset cables. I put mine between the cable from the interface and the stock driver headset cable. So the Adapter is inside the fairing. PMR can be directly connected. CB has the same plug sometimes but with different wiring. The changes are not to difficult to do at the CB. I'm working on it. The best is that's also working with the dynamic headset microphone without changes.

[Kris]

Seems that I'm the lucky bastard who has both - PMR with boosted output power up to 2W (not very legal in most countires. . ) and CB too. I have the US model as you might have suggested already ;-)
I'm using channel 3 (channel 3.13) on PMR since this channel has the same frequency on most PMR receivers.

br
Kris.
XVZ-13 TF - Big Blue Light

[roland]

I also have the boosted pmr but not the cb. I'm also trying to figure out how to connect a aftermarket CB to my Venture. But it is difficult. And I have a little problems with the modulation of the pmr. But this can be corrected. Im in the testing phase what's the best way. May be I can learn somthing from You during the france meeting. Hope to see You there.

Roland

[Horác]

Hallo,

I want to asked for help - I have RSV and the original intercom headset.

1) I want to improve this set by using PMR radio and connected it into the original intecom.

2) Then, I want to connect the voice navigation from GPS Garmin Quest into this intercom.

Please, do you think this could be made? If yes, how?
Which additional parts I need?

Thank you very much in advanced!

Best Regards,
Horac

[johnjr]

Horac....its kinda quit today it appears...I'm gonna pass this info on to our sister site...the Venturers.org and see if they can help ya out too....I'm sure Roland can help you or Nacho...they will see this question and respond soon...so hang in there buddy!!!

[roland]

To integrate a PMR you need the add-a-radio interface from airrider or something equal. I wanted to build my own but I couldn't finish it during my illness. So I bought it from airrider. Tests are not finished yet because some of my friends have some problems to get their PMR's integrated.

To integrate the speech of the GPS there is also an adapter needed which seperates the ground to the GPS. But I didn't figure out to integrate both. In my opinion I don't need the speech of the GPS because I see when my StreetPilot is changing the screen to show me where to go at the next crossing.

[Horác]

Hi Roland,

advise FRSET4 from Kennedy (www.cellset.com) or QuickPhone (softline-online.de)?
Everything without vocal GPS.

Thanks.
Horac

[roland]

The Quick-phone integrates a Handy to the existing Audio equipment of the Venture (GoldWing). May be the connectors are different from the connectors of the Venture.

The FRSet 4 from Kennedy integrates a PMR or FRS-Radio to the Venture with the right connectors. But I don't know whether the PTT-Button comes with the set or must be ordered separatly. The information on their website isn't really helpful. For me the airrider website was better and I could check out what I needed.

But what do you want? Do you want to integrate a PMR or a Cellphone or a GPS or all together?

[Horác]

Only PMR.

[Romek]

"who has both - PMR with boosted output power up to 2W (not very legal in most countires. . ) and CB too."

In my opinion PMR is better than CB because smaller, shorter antennas (you can operate handy) mostly legal. CB'ers depends on country operate with 0 or 5 kHz at the end of frequency,amplitude modulation or frequency modulation, and mostly illegal....
or pass exams, be licenced radioamateur (like me) and put that kind of antennas (my ones on pictures below). You can talk to whole the world:

my licence for 500 watts, rather enough.
anyway, PMR !

[roland]

@ jaho:

For the PMR You need the Kennedy FRSet4 or the Add-a-Radio interface from airrider. Don't know the Kennedy set but the airrider set comes "plug and play". With both sets you can integrate a CB, but in Germany the plugs are different and it's not easy to do this. But the PMR with the standard plugs (3,5 and 2,5 mm) needs no changes.